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Do we need just one moderator for offsite??
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Do we need at least two for offsite??
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Do we need to leave as is???
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BigC
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PostSubject: To admin    To admin  EmptyThu Oct 22, 2015 1:09 pm

I have sent a cpl of pm's to admin asking a simple question..

I have yet to receive a reply..I guess and this is just a guess he is either to busy or hasn't replied for a good reason...

Which is why i have said before their needs to be more then one on admin to address issues that pop up...

What if the only person to run offsite is out of town,takes ill,anything could pop up and maybe nothing with urgency but maybe something that would require a speedy answer...

Am i alone on thinking this fatcat teams???
All team Chiefs need to ask their team mates.Is one moderator suffice,or do we need one maybe 2 to keep things on an even keel??? So i thought to poll it and see what site/fatcatters felt!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyThu Oct 22, 2015 1:35 pm

it was ease the load if more mods were available just a thought
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyThu Oct 22, 2015 3:12 pm

Voted  and Good poll, the problem is  admin ( Danny )may not  reply as he has essentially left  this site ( and fatcat ) to continue  with his business  startup... hopefully he  does  check his messages  every once in a while as i truly believe having one mod is  too  few.. ( personal reasons aside... it is  too much for one person  to deal with,and having  more than one allows people to ask the mod they are  more  comfortable  with  for help) My thoughts are perhaps 3 or more.. North America, Europe and Aussie time zones
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyThu Oct 22, 2015 5:16 pm

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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyThu Oct 22, 2015 10:22 pm

The FC Offsite forum has absolutely nothing to do with CFC.  They have little, if any, input into how this offsite is run.  If they did, do you think jazzplayer, who was banned by DB and Mufasa from FatCat forever, would still have a profile in this forum and his posts would not have been removed when I think h*ll will freeze over before they let him play on FC again?

That was just an example of how separate this site is and that FC Admin does not have the right to remove that from this site only Danny or Roy do.  This is essentially a private forum and Danny made the rules and has left this offsite in the hands of Roy, who is now the sole arbiter of what is acceptable to post and what isn't and what stays and what goes.

I think Admin at FC pretty much tries to ignore this site.  If you don't like what is posted here your only options are to ask Danny to name a second moderator to this site or go back to using the original FC forum that was reopened.  The original FC certainly is convenient, and if you have an issue there then you can take that up with Support aka Mufasa at FatCat or you can contact DB.  I'm actually surprised more players aren't using that site.  It used to be great and it could be again if players started posting there and actually using it.

QB

P.S.  If you think something has popped up in the offsite requiring immediate attention and it isn't being addressed or you feel you are being ignored, stop using the offsite forum and go back to the original FC forum and post there instead.  Maybe if you do others will follow.
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyFri Oct 23, 2015 2:57 am

Danny`s Word when he re-opened this site:

Hey all. Well as all of you know, this forum has been down for a couple of days due to constant drama, the tables have been near deserted once again for the same reasons. All of this is now being put to a stop. I personally don't want to see so much drama every time I come here or go on fatcat and I bet 99% of others don't either so whoever you are or whatever problem you have had with others previously please put this to an end once and for all now.

I know it sounds easy to just say let the past be ignored and all have a new start and an end to the rivalries that are damaging the site but it has to be done, not just for your own benefit but for everyone else. Fatcat should be a fun place for people to come and play and get away from real life problems rather than being a huge dramafest.

Not asking you all hug it out, just asking that any nonsense from before now is stopped.

Anyone causing constant drama in the forums or on the tables will be removed, it doesn't matter who you are, if you keep doing it and abusing people you are gone. But please don't as we want everyone to come to the forums or go on the tables and have fun, not fight and be banned as what's the point?

Anyone that has a problem speak to myself or mufasa and we can sort it, rather put effort in to fix problems now than have things escalate into all out war again.


If anyone has any questions that you don't want made in public PM me and i'll reply ASAP.

Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyFri Oct 23, 2015 7:38 am

diablo666 wrote:
Danny`s Word when he re-opened this site:

Hey all. Well as all of you know, this forum has been down for a couple of days due to constant drama, the tables have been near deserted once again for the same reasons. All of this is now being put to a stop. I personally don't want to see so much drama every time I come here or go on fatcat and I bet 99% of others don't either so whoever you are or whatever problem you have had with others previously please put this to an end once and for all now.

I know it sounds easy to just say let the past be ignored and all have a new start and an end to the rivalries that are damaging the site but it has to be done, not just for your own benefit but for everyone else. Fatcat should be a fun place for people to come and play and get away from real life problems rather than being a huge dramafest.

Not asking you all hug it out, just asking that any nonsense from before now is stopped.

Anyone causing constant drama in the forums or on the tables will be removed, it doesn't matter who you are, if you keep doing it and abusing people you are gone. But please don't as we want everyone to come to the forums or go on the tables and have fun, not fight and be banned as what's the point?

Anyone that has a problem speak to myself or mufasa and we can sort it, rather put effort in to fix problems now than have things escalate into all out war again.


If anyone has any questions that you don't want made in public PM me and i'll reply ASAP.

Thanks.

And the reason you quoted all this is why exactly?  What does this have to do with the Opinion Poll BigC posted?  Is he not allowed to post a poll and ask people's opinion?  No one is saying anyone cares about the results of it because probably on the off-site they don't, but is that a right they took away that people didn't know about?

I also think this post you quoted which does not have a date attached to it was posted before DB AND MUFASA TOOK BACK THE RUNNING OF FATCAT!  I was not playing on FC during whatever events brought about the shut down of this offsite forum, so I don't know what actually precipitated that taking place.

Like I said, if people are unhappy here they can always post in the real/main FC forum, and then if they have a gripe they can go to FC Support aka Mufasa if they have an issue and I know Mufasa and DB will address it.  Mufasa has clearly indicated that this off-site forum is "Danny's site" and FC has nothing to do with it or its creation and what goes on here is not his domain just what goes on in the forum on the main FC site.

Once again, IMHO if people take issue with what is going on in this forum they should post in the main forum instead.  Then they will actually have someone to go to if they have a problem that they will feel is more responsive.  Otherwise, this forum is what it is, and I don't see Danny or anyone else actually giving a rat's *** about anyone's opinion on the running of it.

QB

P.S. BigC what exactly was the difference between Option #1 in your poll and Option #3. Aren't they exactly the same and both equal one moderator?


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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyFri Oct 23, 2015 7:41 am

That was the way it was then diablo however since that post Danny is no longer available to intervene or assist. He is too busy with his starting up of his company so sending him a message will be to no avail, and mufasa has said he will do nothing regarding these forums only the ones directly connected with fatcat.
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyFri Oct 23, 2015 7:56 am

I have sent danny a txt message, he will be here to respond. Cheers!
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyFri Oct 23, 2015 8:01 am

Hey all. Hope everyone is doing great.

Not sure what has been happening due to being offline due to work for a while.

I'll be home in a few hours so if anyone wants to get a point across or say something either post here or send me a pm and I'll reply later today.

Have read the posts so far and will look I to getting any problems rectified shortly.

I'll be back in a few hours. Thumbs up
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyFri Oct 23, 2015 9:42 am

Well Q, it's kind of a catch 22 to see exactly how everyone feels...I posted it that way to see just how the votes would go...

Essentially they are both the same and intended them to be that way...I hope that answers your question Q....

Also your right i should have put on the poll use the old/new forums on this poll but hindsight is 20/20..lol

I do like these forums i have got used to them i guess..But I can change just wanted to see how everyone felt as one mod to me isn't enough on offsite!!!

You have made a very valid point in using the old/new forums.....Ty for your response...

Tweetytime was the 2nd moderator that i know of and a very good one at that... It would be nice to see her return if she would have it again..

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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyFri Oct 23, 2015 9:48 am

Thank you julez also thank you danny for a response......
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyFri Oct 23, 2015 11:33 am

Right I'll be back on here properly for the foreseeable future until someone extra is brought in to help Roy out with the modding/admin work on this site.

Any suggestions feel free to message myself or Roy.

Honestly have to say though I'm surprised everyone hasn't moved over to the main sites forums. This site was created due to the old forums being closed and fc space completely broken. Everyone being on the main forum rather than people scattered here and over there doesn't really help the site at all in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyFri Oct 23, 2015 2:11 pm

dj85 wrote:
Right I'll be back on here properly for the foreseeable future until someone extra is brought in to help Roy out with the modding/admin work on this site.

Any suggestions feel free to message myself or Roy.

Honestly have to say though I'm surprised everyone hasn't moved over to the main sites forums. This site was created due to the old forums being closed and fc space completely broken. Everyone being on the main forum rather than people scattered here and over there doesn't really help the site at all in my opinion.

Good Post Cheers Danny

Big C appreciate what you were trying to do here...unfortunately there is really no simple way of making any forum infallable.
What members have to realise is that any person who has adminstrative rights can do almost anything on a forum. For example the private forums in this forum ARE not as private as many of you think---adminstrators can read every post you make...sure you can limit access by making them moderators....but anyone who is admin of a site still has the powers to do what ever they see fit. Personally I don't believe that anyone that is on a team should have that right in this forum...as it can become a conflict of interest and not only that it puts those people in a compromising situation that sooner or later they will probably have to defend their actions. Admin does take time and a little computer knowledge---hats off to finding anyone on this site that could meet all of the criteria that would make everyone completely happy
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyFri Oct 23, 2015 3:47 pm

IM with dj, I prefer the old fatcat forums
No danger of any one person chopping/hacking up/spying on private forums

New members also have easy access to fatcat forums on one page.
Team members mod their own areas and designated for team talk.
Much better system than here.







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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptyFri Oct 23, 2015 3:56 pm

i will go where RR wants to go .Old forum was closed , fc space was opened , Danny opened thid one which has been our home......
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 9:05 am

if mufasa n danny are also mods I see no need to add mods.... moot point
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 10:33 am

Danny has been gone due to his new business venture and left the mod spot open to roy and roy only..He popped back in because he has received im's & texts....

So as far as mods go roy has been sole moderator and deletes posts that should be left up..

Is that fair??

JMO
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 11:11 am

BigC wrote:
Danny has been gone due to his new business venture and left the mod spot open to roy and roy only..He popped back in because he has received im's & texts....

So as far as mods go roy has been sole moderator and deletes posts that should be left up..

Is that fair??

JMO
BigC

roy does not do this.
roy is not the sole mod either, mufasa also has admin and mod capabilities.
either you didn't know this and are posting falsities in error, or,
you are posting lies to discredit me in some kind of misguided loyalty to your team chief.

post facts and truths only please, the members here do not need any more misleading.
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 11:40 am

I have contacted mufasa and while he may have the power still his time does not include anything to do with this forum.

You did in fact create a thread using a post I made in a totally different thread creating the illusion I done it that is abusing the mods power by fabricating threads for other people.
Also it is a fact that you delete threads solely because you deemed them unacceptable lets be honest here it is now you misleading the membership.
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 11:53 am

CoachesCorner wrote:
I have contacted mufasa and while he may have the power still his time does not include anything to do with this forum.

You did in fact create a thread using a post I made in a totally different thread creating the illusion I done it that is abusing the mods power by fabricating threads for other people.
Also it is a fact that you delete threads solely because you deemed them unacceptable lets be honest here it is now you misleading the membership.

please don't preach to me about honesty in a thread i "fabricated" that was the post full of lies that you made, i simply moved it into let it all out from another post you brazenly put it in to stir trouble.

so you contacted mufasa about his mod duties here.....did you then tell him to step down and leave it to someone that has the time?
did you also ask why he was deleting posts just a few weeks ago?
perhaps you can make another post to the members suggesting he get some help or be replaced, afterall, it suited your agenda to suggest the same about me.
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 12:15 pm

Lies???? Cmon roy i have the messages where i politely asked you to do a simple request as a mod...you ignored it and when you finally replied you admitted you did not like me and you would do it when you felt so inclined to do so.
which was weeks later and only when it was redundant.

The membership deserves to know that if you do not like them  or unless they kiss your arse they may never get anything they need done I state again if you cannot do your job impartially then you should be replaced plain and simple.

I also believe you are now trying to turn this into a drama thread because the poll is not going your way that way you can have an excuse to delete it and make it go away...


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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 12:22 pm

CoachesCorner wrote:
Lies???? Cmon roy i have the messages where i politely asked you to do a simple request as a mod...you ignored it and when you finally replied you admitted you did not like me and you would do it when you felt so inclined to do so.
which was weeks later and only when it was redundant.

The membership deserves to know that if you do not like them  or unless they kiss your arse they may never get anything they need done.

yes, you do have ONE polite message, message(s)?.....lie
i ignored your message...another lie
when it was redundant...yet another lie
still repeating the "weeks" thing?.....yet another lie.
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 12:26 pm

lol whatever you say I know the truth and for a fact you know all about lies you have perfected them.....what a power hungry sad soul you truly are
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PostSubject: Re: To admin    To admin  EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 12:37 pm

then by all means go to let it all out and post all my lies.
you know the truth & facts?... go post them.
for the benefit of everyone that uses this forum, lets see the real truth.
we'll all see who the power hungry sad soul is.
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